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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/20/2009 18:37 PM)
Ok, here's the deal on posting pictures... Right now, the Aimoo message board that we are using is FREE. It's easy and FREE. It is also limited. In order for us to be able to post pictures on the message boards, we have to step up to an Aimoo Diamond account. And that is NOT free. I'm CHEAP! I have enough expenses now without adding the $6.67 every month it takes to upgrade us to a Diamond account. BUT DON'T GIVE UP!!!!! As Ice Man pointed out, you can go to tinypic and open an account. I just did it and it was QUICK & EASY even for me! Go here; http://img2.tinypic.info/info.php?act=about_usIn the upper right hand corner, click on the Register link and in just 2 minutes you will be able to start uploading those pictures. Once uploaded, you can click on the "my gallery" link and go to the thumbs for each of your photos. Click on the thumb and then go to the "enter links page" down near the bottom of the page. Then copy and paste the "direct" link here like this; http://www.tinypic.info/files/zkzhno0x1l9lpk08evek.jpgThen we can click this link, or copy and paste it to our browser and go right to your photo. Over the winter months when we aren't doing much racing, I hope to update our "cars" page on the web site. We havn't updated that in a long time! I want to dedicate almost a full page to each of the cars. Fortunately, Jeremy has been taking photos a lot during all the builds and updates. So we should be able to put together something really informative. I hope this helps! Pictures will help us see what you are dealing with and we should be able to offer all kinds of opinions!
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Numbersix
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/20/2009 19:34 PM)
Okay, did this come through
http://www.tinypic.info/viewer.php?file=lgg8uweb9zplo9ohkqxe.jpg
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Numbersix
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/20/2009 19:37 PM)
Well Fran I'm trying, but it's going to take me a few weeks to figure this out. God I hate computers.
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drscope
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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/20/2009 20:26 PM)
Yes it came through! I had to cut and past the link, but I got to it!
So you have a frame and a pair of front wheels. If thats all you have, you are going to need some sort of brakes, a rear axle and a pair of rear wheels, tires and bearings all around and you might want to think about a seat that will keep you in place.
This type of car used a solid rear axle that had a key way it's full length. The wheels were fixed to the axle and so was the brake disc or drum. The axle is mounted in bearings.
That set up works OK, but it will be scrubbing off speed as you turn. What a lot of the guys do who run this type of set up is to get additional bearings and hangers and mount them inboard. Then they cut the center of the rear axle. This gives independent rear axles while still being able to run the brakes.
Or, you could just go to a 5/8 rod and use a standard wheel. Thats what we started out with. we used a Harbor Freight 5" wheel on the rear of all our cars. This one;
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=37767They worked OK when ALL the cars had the same wheel. But to go fast, this didn't work out too well.
We STILL use this wheel!!!!! We have just upgraded to a better bearing AND a better tire. The bearings they come with just won't hold up. One or two runs down the hill and they are shot. After all, this stuff was made for walking speed!
But we install the good AZUSA bearings part#8205 $2.15ea. they will last a LONG time.
The other problem is the tires. These tires are just NOT made for this. They are NOT round! And when you get a tire thats out of round, it really keeps it from gaining speed. So we still use that wheel, with better bearings and better tires. We run Azusa tire #7164 $17.25.
I have recently made up the jig to be able to drill and mount the Azusa 4 1/2 or 5" brake drum to these wheels. Before our next race, we hope to have that set up on the rear of 3 more of the loaner cars. That will give ALL our cars, foot operated drum brakes as well as hand operated scrubs.
It looks like your car originally had a band brake on the right rear.
And you may want to also replace your front tie rods! Once they have been bent like that, they won't stay straight and you'll have a very difficult time trying to do a wheel alignment.
Your seat might be Ok if you weld some sides to the frame of the seat to help hold you in.
And it would be easy to fit this thing with scrub brakes.
So, how's your tool collection? Do you have access to a welder?
Here's a link to the Azusa stuff;
http://www.azusaeng.com/azusaline.htmlI'm trying to get things ready to post on the Allied Motor Sports web site, buts its a lot more work then I thought. Once they are posted, you will be able to go there and see whats available and also prices! Keep in mind, all prices are LIST prices, and you should receive at least a 20% discount from there.
http://www.alliedmotorsports.us/
(Message edited by drscope On 10/20/2009 20:27 PM)
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drscope
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/20/2009 20:58 PM)
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Numbersix
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/21/2009 09:41 AM)
Fran,
Here is the rear axle which you can see is bent. And yes, the hubs do have a key way and key. I've already removed the tire (what was left of it) from the rim. I am currently trying to strip the axle so I can have it straitened, but I have the most primitive of shop conditions and tools. The hubs seem to be rusted fast to the axle and it looks like these bearings are pressed on. I also notice a retaining ring with set screws between the hub and bearing. I'm going to try some PB Blaster to see if that helps loosen it up. I'm not sure it I should put a torch to it for fear of weakening the metal. The info you sent is very useful for future perches for what will be needed. For me it's just a matter of time and money.
http://www.tinypic.info/files/jm898k92117tdxyb2go2.jpg
Looks like you can only do one picture at a time with this system. I'm sending the close up of the front suspension next. You will see it has issues too.
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Numbersix
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/21/2009 09:57 AM)
Here's the front. I tell ya, the kid I got this from was a real whack job. I do have a seat for it, it came from one of my brother-in-laws motorized chairs. He's a Viet Nam Vet who has MS. The seat is brand new and he gave it to me because it didn't fit him. So I'm set there. I plan to remove the burned up seat and move the new seat back where the engine area is. I'll have to cut, invert and re-weld the engine support on the left side so the seat can fit better. This should give me more leg room to sit right down inside my kart. Then comes the endless list of modifications I'll need to do to make this thing right. And yes, it did have band breaks on the rear. Left side band is missing and drum is damaged. Right side is there but really a mess.
http://www.tinypic.info/files/jn7r9vus16lps2q3jhna.jpg
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drscope
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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/21/2009 11:48 AM)
I don't think i would waste much time with anything you have for the rear axle except the wheels and hubs. Trying to get that axle straight is probably not going to happen. See if you can match it up here; http://www.azusaeng.com/axles/solidaxles.htmlThe bearings should have a collar with a set screw that holds the bearing in place to the axle. They shouldn't be pressed on, just a tight snug fit. But years of rust and the fire damage burning any oil away should make them pretty difficult to get off. I think I would just concern myself with trying to save the hubs. Bearings for that, if it is a 1" axle are $9.50 ea. list price. But they also have a bearing kit that has 2 hangers, 4 flangettes, 2 bearings and all the hardware. If this is a 1" with a 2 hole flangette it's part #1861A ($37.95) If 1" with 3 hole flangette, part # 1861B ($38.50) The expensive part is the axle. They run from $30 to $60 for the standard stuff and the racing axles can get into the hundreds. You might want to consider just going with a 5/8 rod axle out back and the Harbor freight wheels with new bearings and tires we discussed earlier. That would help keep the cost down. Then just rig a simple scrub brake. Up front, new bearings, tires and tubes and you are ready to go. You might want to think about new tie rods. They run about $20.
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uo69
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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/25/2009 11:21 AM)
where is numbersix from? NY?
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/25/2009 15:45 PM)
well given that he said he had a county airport near(ish) him, my guess was either elmira or binghamton yes, in NY. but maybe he can answer the question for you better than I
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Numbersix
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/26/2009 04:33 AM)
Yes gentleman, I live near Binghamton, N.Y. The name of the town I live in is Endicott.
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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/28/2009 09:18 AM)
Number six, No Way! I grew up in Endicott! Graduated class of 1992 from UE. Small world.
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Numbersix
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Re:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/28/2009 18:09 PM)
Yes sir Brian, that it can be at times. I graduated from U.E. a good nine years before you were even a twinkle in your parents eyes. So I guess this little hobby we come to indulge in is for all ages. Must be it has to do a lot with the "zoom factor" we all love so much.
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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/29/2009 05:05 AM)
alright now you 2 get building and go tune your cars over the winter ... it will look like father and son... Get your cars up to speed and come race us NJ boys in March
Our season opener will be on a nice tame road with no houses and no intersections. See you in march.
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RE:Pictures?
(Date Posted:10/29/2009 05:13 AM)
there are a ton of hills in that part of ny that look like great runs... i only looked real quick .. you were only about 75 miles from the ECC and your within an hour of some of our north nj runs ... Our guys from southern NJ have to drive much longer...
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